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Well, these are not bad pants really. They were tough, I wore them on a 38 mile, 5 day hike. Pretty comfy all in all. But I still regret buying them because of two key missing features that made my life so so frustrating! First, the zip off legs. They work fine, the zippers were a little sticky but fine. But the face that there were no side zippers meant in order to take off or put on, had me sitting down and taking off my boots each time. So made them almost pointless because once I committed to shorts or pants, it was way too much work to take off my pack, sit down, take off both shoes, unzip, etc. Second, even more annoying was there were no side pockets for my phone and knife. The hip pockets didn't fit my phone, annoying, and the pack pretty much was covering them anyway, making them pretty useless for something like your camera where you want to pull it out quickly and put it away quickly. Just two things to think about with these pants.
I got the plum pants- gorgeous color, but the waist was a bit large, and a little too full in the hips for me. Sending back to get the large. Also, these are not 'quiet' pants. If it weren't for the color, I would've simply returned them.