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I don't know for whom or for what some manufacturers are making pants, but these guys are making their pants for reasonably normally proportioned people. They aren't so relaxed that they're clown pants, but they are relaxed in all the right places. Good choice.
Love these! Perfect fit for my old pear shaped body. Waist is a little big but not belt worthy. butt and legs fit great. Length is perfect! I am 5'6" and weigh 175. SIZE 14 Before these I purchased LEE WOMENS RELAXED FIT STRAIGHT LEG. Also size 14. they were too big in the waist (I had to wear a belt!) And too tight in the legs. Not ever flattering. These are perfect! I will buy more of these. Lots of colors to choose from. I like that.
First, the fit -- most jeans gap at my waist -- I guess designed by men. I have to put in a tuck at the back or wear a belt -- or have them fall to my hips. These fit my waist so I don't have to wear a belt under my t-shirts. GREAT! Also, they have enough stretch in the fabric that, when I don't wear a belt, I can sit down and stand up and the waist stays in place. I read a review that mentioned pilling. I have worn these a lot all spring and summer -- and no one pill, even between my thighs.
I am 5"5 and weigh 146 so I got size 14 because I am pear shaped . I found the waist sits about 2" above my waist, and the crotch area was too long. i hemed them about 3" and wore them,because I needed them ,but, now I ordered a short to try them. I purchased black ones, which picks up a lot of lint.
They don't fit as loose as I'd like, but they do provide just enough room for my large thighs that they aren't outlined. There is a tad bit to stretch to the pants, but I don't make that much use of that feature. Make sure you get the pants with the most cotton.