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These pants are really nice -- the color, the thickness, the fit. I ordered one size up because I wasn't sure how they would fit and I'd rather the pants be too big than too small. Going one size up gave them a "relaxed" fit (not baggy though). I am 5'2" and my pants are always a bit long -- which is usually okay because I almost always wear heels. However, these pants were a bit too long and needed to have about three inches hemmed off the bottom (just to make them wearable with heels). I almost sent them back but I liked the color and style so much that I opted to have them altered instead. On a side note, I haven't noticed any "see through" issues, which is definitely a plus for light colored pants.