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These are my new fav hiking shorts. They aren't too tight and stay light and breathable, even when I am sweating like crazy. They roll up nicely to fit in my backpack and don't take up much room. I also wore them to a golf tournament last weekend and they looked nice enough to fit right in. They do wrinkle though, so be warned - don't leave them in the dryer for too long after the cycle is done or you will have to steam them.