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I purchased these in a 4 and a 6 and wanted badly to like them. I am thin but have curves, 5'9", 130# and have a long torso, curvy hip to stomach ratio. I usually wear a medium or 4-6 in most clothes. I tried on both sizes and in both pairs, because of my curves, it pulled the shorts up higher and gave a front wedge that was obvious and uncomfortable. The 6 was too loose on my legs, so the 8 would have been unflattering in other ways. If you have a less curvy figure or an average length torso, these may be for you.