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The waistband is a bit thick and these shorts are pretty high wasted, so if you want a lower waist by folding the actual waist down, it causes the shorts to look too bunched up. Plus because of this issue, the actual body of the shorts as a whole look too large. I'm hoping they'll calm down, so I don't have to worry about trying to return or change to a different style (brand) Great quality just wrong fit.